Archive for the ‘History’ category

The FBI’s 9/11 timeline

March 9, 2018

Recent DC fiasco isn’t the first time the FBI have done questionable things.

September 12, 2001: FBI and NTSB Limit Evidence Recovery Efforts at PentagonEdit event
FBI Special Agent John Adams, who is now in charge of evidence recovery at the Pentagon during the daytime, addresses how the FBI should deal with the physical evidence at the crash site. [CREED AND NEWMAN, 2008, PP. 347 AND 351] As the Pentagon is a crime scene, the FBI is responsible for collecting and documenting evidence there. [CREED AND NEWMAN, 2008, PP. 177] Agents are still carefully gathering together wreckage, but there is an overwhelming amount of it to deal with. Several FBI supervisors convene and discuss what the bureau should be recovering. One of them says every airplane part is significant and needs to be treated as valuable evidence. But Adams counters: “That can’t be. We know what happened here. Do we really need to collect every piece of the airplane?” Adams goes over to some National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) crash experts at the site, who are responsible for determining what happened to Flight 77. When he asks them, “Do you guys want pieces of the plane?” an NTSB official responds: “No, it’s clear what happened here. We don’t need pieces of the wings and stuff like that. But we do need the black boxes.” [CREED AND NEWMAN, 2008, PP. 351-352]

Entity Tags: RobertMoomo, Federal Bureau of Investigation, John S. Adams

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

Category Tags: 9/11 Investigations, FBI 9/11 Investigation

(September 12, 2001-2002): FBI Intimidates Witnesses Who Saw Atta in Venice; Tells Them to Keep QuietEdit event
A number of witnesses who claim they saw Mohamed Atta living in Venice, Florida in early 2001 later allege that, in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, they are intimidated by the FBI and told to keep quiet about what they knew. Amanda Keller, who claims to have lived with Atta during early 2001 (see (February-April 2001)), later says that, even after she moved away from Venice, FBI agents called her every other day for several months after the attacks. She tells investigative reporter Daniel Hopsicker about “intimidation by the FBI” that she suffered, adding, “They told me not to talk to anybody, to keep my mouth shut.” Stephanie Frederickson, who remembers Keller and Atta living next door to her in the Sandpiper Apartments in Venice, later recalls, “At first, right after the attack, [the FBI] told me I must have been mistaken in my identification. Or they would insinuate that I was lying. Finally they stopped trying to get me to change my story, and just stopped by once a week to make sure I hadn’t been talking to anyone. Who was I going to tell? Most everyone around here already knew.” Charles Grapentine, the manager of the Sandpiper Apartments, also confirms Atta having lived with Keller. He says that, after 9/11, the FBI “called me a liar, and told me to keep my mouth shut.” [HOPSICKER, 2004, PP. 62-63, 65 AND 88-89] According to the FBI’s account of events, Atta had left Venice by late December 2000 or early January 2001. Its account makes no mention of him returning there later. [US CONGRESS, 9/26/2002] A former manager at Huffman Aviation, the Venice flight school attended by Atta in late 2000 (see July 6-December 19, 2000), also later alleges that the FBI intimidated him and told him to keep quiet. He says the FBI was “outside my house four hours after the attack.” He claims his phones were bugged after 9/11, and adds, “I thought these guys [Atta and his associates] were double agents. Why is that so incriminating?” [HOPSICKER, 2004, PP. 149-150]

Entity Tags: Daniel Hopsicker, Charles Grapentine, Mohamed Atta, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Stephanie Frederickson, Amanda Keller

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

Category Tags: 9/11 Investigations, FBI 9/11 Investigation

September 12-October 29, 2001: Cars Belonging to 9/11 Hijackers Recovered; Suspicious Powder Found in Car Rented to AttaEdit event
On September 12, the FBI in Miami issues a national bulletin for law enforcement agencies to be on the lookout for two cars connected with the 9/11 attacks. One is a red 1989 Pontiac registered to Mohamed Atta, presumably the car he bought in July 2000 (see Early July 2000). The other is an Oldsmobile Alero, leased from a company in Boca Raton, but this is located later in the day. [WASHINGTON POST, 9/12/2001; WESH 2 (ORLANDO/DAYTONA), 9/12/2001; CNN, 9/13/2001] About six weeks later, the Pontiac and another unspecified car that belonged to Atta and Marwan Alshehhi are found at a used car dealership in Tamarac, Florida, near Fort Lauderdale. The hijackers reportedly sold them a week before 9/11. [CNN, 10/26/2001; CNN, 10/28/2001; MIAMI HERALD, 10/29/2001] Also around this time, Brad Warrick, the owner of a Florida company that rented cars to Atta (see August 6-September 9, 2001), reports finding about a teaspoon of an unidentified white powder in the trunk of a Ford Escort used by Atta in the days before the attacks. The FBI had impounded the car for two weeks after 9/11, and it has not been used since. An FBI spokeswoman says it is unlikely that agents would have missed a suspicious powder and suggests it could be fingerprinting dust. [MIAMI HERALD, 10/29/2001; REUTERS, 10/29/2001; WASHINGTON POST, 10/30/2001]

Entity Tags: Brad Warrick, Mohamed Atta, Federal Bureau of Investigation

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

Category Tags: Mohamed Atta, 9/11 Investigations, FBI 9/11 Investigation

September 11, 2001-Autum 2002: FBI’s Saudi Office Fails to Follow Up Thousands of 9/11 Leads; Unprocessed Documents Are DestroyedEdit event
At the time of 9/11, the FBI’s Saudi Arabia office was comprised of only legal attache Wilfred Rattigan and his assistant Gamal Abdel-Hafiz. Abdel-Hafiz, the FBI’s only Muslim agent at the time, had been appointed to the position in February 2001 despite a controversy with his FBI work back in the US (see Early 1999-March 21, 2000). Some fellow FBI agents accused him of refusing to secretly record conversations with Muslim suspects. Time will report, “The FBI sent reinforcements [to the Saudi Arabian office] within two weeks of 9/11, but it appears that the bureau’s team never got on top of the thousands of leads flowing in from the US and Saudi governments.… According to several former employees of the US embassy in Riyadh, the FBI legal attache’s office housed within the embassy was often in disarray during the months that followed 9/11. When an FBI supervisor arrived [nearly a year after 9/11] to clean up the mess, she found a mountain of paper and, for security reasons, ordered wholesale shredding that resulted in the destruction of unprocessed documents relating to the 9/11 investigations.” In June 2005, the Senate Judiciary Committee will begin investigating allegations that the FBI’s Saudi office was “delinquent in pursuing thousands of leads” related to 9/11. Piles of time-sensitive leads still had not been followed up when the supervisor arrives. The FBI will claim that the thousands of shredded documents were duplicated elsewhere. But the Judiciary Committee will assert some material is lost. One employee will claim that some of the lost information “was leads, suspicious-activity material, information on airline pilots.” Rattigan, who has converted to Islam, later will sue the FBI for discrimination and will claim that the FBI refused to provide him with adequate resources to cope with the workload after 9/11. [FRONTLINE, 10/16/2003; TIME, 6/27/2005]


Nathiel Grisby on Democrats

December 17, 2017


Lieut Nathaniel “Natty” Grigsby

It’s like Socrates, giving a prophecy when he was being sentenced to death. Prophecy came true btw, more or less. (Same thing I wrote 2015)

NASA Never a straight answer vs Flat Earth Model Alt Earth

November 25, 2017

A lot of “Alternative” things these days. When what everyone “knows” came from tv, is contested by youtube, people will prefer to believe their memories of tv over the competitors.

This gets to the heart of American cultural supremacy and superiority. But foreigners also believe that NASA told the straight story, since they believe in what they see on CNN too.

I wouldn’t believe what the government says about conspiracy theories. After all, the IRS and the Benghazi arms sales and the destruction of emails and hard drives were just “a conspiracy theory” from their pov. What difference does it make if NASA has been deceiving the world?

Cyclopeian Masonry or Mortarless Masonry

November 4, 2017

This I found while researching the Pyramids of Giza and why you can’t fit a razor blade between these stones that were supposedly moved by slaves.

As Islam advances what did the Vatican do in our past

November 4, 2017

Two competing narratives.

To respond to the Vatican side, the Old Hebrews had many factions: Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes, before Titus destroyed the Second Temple.

It is not surprising that the Essenes were considered “mighty men” and were the faction responsible for preserving un altered scripture in the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Caves of Qumran. The latter Jewish Masoretes not only altered scripture, but it was a death penalty if you went against their human made laws under the Pharisees. Something Jesus of Nazareth took care to point out as hypocrisy. They tried to kill him for blasphemy too, but he had a time schedule that prevented him from dying until a certain end point. The Masoretes in the 3rd century and beyond, attempting to fight this Christian heretical sect of the Nazarene, rewrote the scriptures taking out important doctrine points such as the Two Powers of Heaven. Once accepted even by Caius the high priest and the Pharisees, but now deemed a Nazarene heresy.

So the Vatican argument from the Catholic news agency that “friars” and other monks preserved scriptures, doesn’t really mean anything. Those monks were not Dominican torturers or Jesuits, they were some other faction. And so long as they kept their scripture copying to the authorized copies and were under Authority of the Patriarch of Rome, they were deemed fit to survive.

Additional history here from the Vatican’s own archives.


One Vatican official, Father Pagano, was one of few figures allowed into the archives when he was sent, on the Pope’s orders of to collect the documentation referring to the Galileo case.  He told the Italian newspaper La Stampa last week that the archives of the Inquisition and Index, housed in two rooms, had suffered badly down the centuries and were now “modest.”  Pagano said the Church had a tradition of burning many of the most delicate heresy files and the Inquisition’s archive was almost entirely burned on Pope Paul IV’s death in 1559


Index of Forbidden Books, which Roman Catholics were forbidden to read or possess on pain of excommunication.  They showed that even the Bible was once on the blacklist. Translations of the holy book ended up on the bonfires along with other “heretical” works because the Church, whose official language was Latin, was suspicious of allowing the faithful access to sacred texts without ecclesiastical guidance.

Protestants, who split from Roman Catholics during the Reformation in the 16th and 17th centuries, were allowed to read holy works directly.   The Index of Forbidden Books and all excommunications relating to it were officially abolished in 1966 [only 3 years prior to I becoming a Christian!].  The Inquisition itself was established by Pope Gregory IX in 1233 as a special court to help curb the influence of heresy.  It escalated as Church officials began to count on civil authorities to fine, imprison and even torture heretics.

Not quite the history of the virtues of the West that people want to hear about as they wage another holy war on Islam. Islam killed and enslaved many saints of the Christ. Well, so did the West’s Vatican. Hard to argue for moral superiority there.

I’m not interested in the Crusade arguments or the Galileo divide, because those are merely distractions.

The Giants of Past Civilizations

August 24, 2017

When researching the truth of events, I rely on the 3 independent triangulation method. Find 3 sources independent of each other, so that they do not contaminate each other, and use them to triangulate. The Nephilim are mentioned in Genesis and in the Book of Enoch. Now with corroborating stories and evidence from a continent that were not linked to the ME. If such links appear in the future, it would only reinforce the strength of the source.

To get past the propaganda we need the truth

August 20, 2017

We need not the history, the narrative of a person or his story, but at least some of the objective facts of what happened.

Christianity is a shadow of its former self. It is ironic and sad that believers and faithful still hold to the Ecumenical Councils, in the same fashion that Southern slave lords deceived white cannonfodder with a traditional propaganda history, the Europeans are no better off.