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The Awesome Power of a Wife’s Love! [yea, yea, I know, make your complaints on the relevant forums]

by zed on January 12, 2010

A very old man lay dying in his bed. In death’s doorway, he suddenly smelled the aroma of his favorite chocolate chip cookie wafting up the stairs.

He gathered his remaining strength and lifted himself from the bed. Leaning against the wall, he slowly made his way out of the bedroom, and with even greater effort forced himself down the stairs, gripping the railing with both hands.

With labored breath, he leaned against the door frame, gazing into the kitchen. Were it not for death’s agony, he would have thought himself already in heaven.

There, spread out on newspapers on the kitchen table were literally hundreds of his favorite chocolate chip cookies.

Was it heaven? Or was it one final act of heroic love from his devoted wife, seeing to it that he left this world a happy man?

Mustering one great final effort, he threw himself toward the table. The aged and withered hand, shaking, made its way to a cookie at the edge of the table, when he was suddenly smacked with a spatula by his wife.

“Stay out of those,” she said. “They’re for the funeral.”

(Time for a bit of levity.)

Tagged as: love

{ 35 comments… read them below or add one }

Advocatus Diaboli January 12, 2010 at 03:46

That is the truth.. and it is important that men treat women like they treat them..
Paul January 12, 2010 at 04:14

Well I saw the joke coming but think it more prophetic than humorous. A wife’s love is in fact the most worthless thing a man can be given. What is constituted by a wife’s love is ownership. Once in receipt of a wife’s love a man has no possession of his own life. Everything about him is subsumed under the will of his wife. In effect he no longer has a life as a separate individual but only exists as a functional appendage..

Actually I do not see women as human at all. To be married to one is to have in residence your own private torture, one who will make you despise and regret your very existence.

May be the old man spoken of above found in his last breath one moment of freedom for when a married man dies he may finally find his peace.
Heathen January 12, 2010 at 05:21

A wife’s love is in fact the most worthless thing a man can be given.

How very, very sad.

Take any subjective statement in the men’s movement and switch the words “men/man/male/husband” and “women/woman/female/wife”. If, after the switch, it would make feminists happy, then it’s probably a load of crap.

And the person saying it is probably full of crap.

-Heathen
Garbage Man January 12, 2010 at 05:22

Women are garbage. I fuck women’s skulls and throw them back on the garbage heaps they crawled out from under.

Absolute garbage. Never marry, fuck and chuck. If you want kids, just marry and have eight sons and slowly poison your wife to death with arsenic over a period of eight years… then your assets will be safe.
Heathen January 12, 2010 at 05:31

Women are garbage. I fuck women’s skulls and throw them back on the garbage heaps they crawled out from under.

Absolute garbage. Never marry, fuck and chuck. If you want kids, just marry and have eight sons and slowly poison your wife to death with arsenic over a period of eight years… then your assets will be safe.

See? Apply the test and you know everything you need to know about this person!

Marriage may well be a raw deal. Modern women may not be worth having a long-term relationship with. The system may well need changing. But advocating the murder and debasement of an entire sex makes you no better than any feminist.

-Heathen
Paul January 12, 2010 at 05:39

@Garbage Man

Very well put. You have it exactly correct. Sadly I have been married for 32 years. I know the it awfulness of women (all women) from the inside.

Avoid and prosper!
Snark January 12, 2010 at 05:53

But guys what about teh wimmin

They’re Not All Like That from what I understand!
Amateur Strategist January 12, 2010 at 05:55

Did NOT see that coming… I mean, I know what the Spearhead is all about, but I figured this was a sequelesque article to Zed’s “How to Love” articles…

Wow.
zed January 12, 2010 at 06:14

Did NOT see that coming… I mean, I know what the Spearhead is all about, but I figured this was a sequelesque article to Zed’s “How to Love” articles…

Wow.

Sorry, AS. Sometimes, just to keep people on their toes, I come off the back wall. 😉

The interesting thing about the backstory on this joke is that it was sent to me by a married friend who is a psychologist and one of the most PC persons I have ever met.
Paul Elam January 12, 2010 at 06:15

Thanks for the laugh, Zed.

I sometimes wonder if I was lucky or unlucky to have had the parents I did. In reality, to have had the mother I did.

My father asked my mother to marry him on their first date. She declined, so he asked her again on the second date and she said yes.

They went through the normal shit that most marriages did at the time. My mother was typically female, resulting once in a time where my father, in his frustration, put his hand through a wall and told her, “I wish for five goddam minutes you weren’t my wife. I would beat the hell out of you.”

And when I was six my mother told my father that he would have to choose between booze and her. Her chose her.

Neither incident was one I ever saw and didn’t know about them till many years later. Whatever their problems, and I am sure there were many, they kept them behind closed doors.

They were married for 42 years, till the day he died. And in the end I never saw two people more in love, more inseparable. If they walked together, even to check the mail, they were holding hands.

My father was hit with early onset Alzheimers, which made his last 8 years a bad dream as we watched him slip away, a piece of his mind at a time. She never left his side. No nursing homes, no special care facilities. She cared for him by herself and with the occasional help from her sons till it was over, even for the last year or so when he couldn’t feed himself, bathe himself or even control his bowels.

She cared for him like he was, well, like he was her husband.

Somewhere in all that I was ingrained with an expectation that left me screwed in regards to women. It wasn’t that I held them to an impossible standard based on an idealized mother. But I did expect basic decency from them that never happened.

I didn’t just fail to meet a woman like my mother. I failed to meet a woman that was anything but, in the end, a treacherous whore.

And I still wonder to this day if I was blessed or cursed to have even seen a marriage that worked, to have ever thought it was even possible.
Clarence January 12, 2010 at 06:28

The joke was funny and it’s a good warning, Zed.

Nonetheless, my grandfather went to his grave loving my grandmother.

It’s not the post, but the comments which are pathetic. A joke is made which should cause one to think and be cautious. And perhaps a bit wistful for a bygone time.

But I think the hatred in this thread is what really is scary. Not just for feminists and female users, but for all women, everywhere.
Jim January 12, 2010 at 06:32

Paul- why not get divorced? I understand the financial part might be very damaging but it sounds like you would be a lot happier.
Kathy Farrelly January 12, 2010 at 06:37

Ah.. It was just a joke.
Not worth working up a sweat over.
Snark January 12, 2010 at 06:43

But I think the hatred in this thread is what really is scary. Not just for feminists and female users, but for all women, everywhere.

I believe it’s known as ‘equality’.

I don’t endorse a lot of what’s said in the comments, but I’ll be damned if I’m about to stick up for women.

When was the last time a feminist stuck up for a man? Oh, that’s right – their rationalisation hamsters run circles in their brains and they come up with reasons why it’s okay to denigrate men and agitate for their murder. When a man complains he gets ‘teh menz’ response.

So consider this equality.
JDApostasy January 12, 2010 at 06:49

Be happy such anger is only expressed verbally. Of course, there will probably come a time when it is expressed physically. I hope things don’t come to that, but, I’m not in control of whether or not that comes to pass…
Jabherwochie January 12, 2010 at 06:57

Men have a right to be angry here. We have a right to point out when someone has gone too far with there words also, and they in turn can ignore it. The inherent checks and balances of free speech are good. Welmer will shut down anyone actually taking it too far, and so far, he’s made good calls as far as I’m concerned. I hope people are scared by our anger personally. I’m pissed off and I want them to be scared. Its the least of the negative emotions they should feel. My life was fucked up because of feminism. I understand the anger. I am that angry. And feminist should be scared of us. Not in the physical sense, but in the social sense. We represent male conciousness rising, and as we awaken, it is natural to be angry. Our sleep induced dreams were nothing but a lie. We have been conned, duped, and used. Wake up men, wake up and rage. Anger first, then victory, then maybe, maybe, moderate dialouge and negotiation. Men didn’t fight and suffer in wars and risk their lives building civilization to hand it over to childish women who piss on our very essence. Fuck that. It is the time for anger.
Epo January 12, 2010 at 07:30

Paul, you have it exactly wrong. Women are not INhuman, they’re TOO human. Man is a demigod, woman is a superhuman. It is men who consider themselves ghosts in a machine(who mentally project these ghosts out to other machines and online avatars,) women more truly believe that their bodies ARE their souls (so even their online game time is spent on sim-style collect and decorate-a-thons like Farmville and Animal Crossing.)

And Woch, let’s not forget that anger is useless coming from individuals. A man is only a man among other men, a man alone is merely a woman, though game can make him the best goddamn woman he can ever be. A bunch of educated, respectable, not-obviously fratboy types who nevertheless behave against type (verbally/physically crushing white knights, publicly and LOUDLY calling women on stupid bullshit, and, most importantly, BACKING EACH OTHER UP when push comes to shove or when temporal beauty rears its divisively ugly head) are actually the only way to implement public social change effectively. If the monogamous mentality is dying, then revive the guild mentality! (This, of course, requires an anomaly-that all members actually have, know, and can manipulate game WITHOUT betraying each other at the drop of a hat.)

And three’s a minimum, not a crowd.
Jabherwochie January 12, 2010 at 07:40

Totally Epo.

I just want angry men to know they are welcome here, and free to express their anger, and not alone in feeling that anger. On top of that, emotions like anger, are often enough contagious, so I hope it spreads, as it will motivate us and all men to action. Paradoxically, when everyone is angry enough, and we start to get too angry, I’ll be the one saying, “Calm down. Let’s think this through.” Right now, our biggest hurdle is apathy.
Jabherwochie January 12, 2010 at 07:41

Anger is nature’s apathy smasher.
Hestia January 12, 2010 at 08:05

@Kathy-Ah.. It was just a joke.
Not worth working up a sweat over.
Agreed.

There is much said here and elsewhere that I find distasteful but such words aren’t going to make me whine about “misogyny”. There are indeed women who do distasteful, immoral, and outright evil actions who inspire such talk, insults, and jokes. If the shoe fits, wear it; if not, consider this all the fruits of the collective actions of women for quite some time.
fedrz January 12, 2010 at 08:07

Phew! For a minute there, Zed, I was thinkin’: “One blowjob away…”
Rebel January 12, 2010 at 08:15

All that anger is ultimately destructive. Anger is a sign that hope is still in the air.
Once one has gone over that emotion, calm settles in.

Men must simply abandon women. That is all there is to it. And it’s really the only option available to men.

Go your own way, men. Don’t look back.

The future is ahead of us, not behind. And it does not include women. Not as part of our lives anyway.

Hatred is useless, destructive and leads only to depression. Life is too short.

Let women have it their way: it’s their lives (their bodies) and we have nothing in common with them anymore.

So, why not abandon them, simply?

I don’t wish women any harm. I just wish them the men they deserve: none.

So, forgive… and forsake them.
zed January 12, 2010 at 08:16

Right now, our biggest hurdle is apathy.

I can see how it looks that way, but I see things a bit differently.

An outlet for a man’s anger is a necessary safety valve. I use two analogies to try to explain why the efforts of women and white knights to silence men and keep them silenced when they are blowing off steam actually works to the long-term detriment of women.

Over on the forum I just used the analogy of that red light on your dashboard which comes on when your engine is about to blow up. A person with any reasonable intelligence looks at the light, realizes it is telling him that something is wrong, stops the car, and figures out what is wrong.

But, the way the culture, women, white knights, and manginas, approach the problem is to get all bent out shape and try to ignore the light. Then it starts getting brighter and flashing to indicate something really is wrong. So, they cover it up with a piece of duct tape. And, it gets brighter and a warning buzzer starts to sound – so they take a hammer and smash it out of the dashboard. There, problem solved – until the engine blows up.

The other analogy I use is that of a pressure cooker. They have safety relief valves to “let off steam” when the pressure inside is building up to dangerous levels. The fools who invade every last tiny bit of space men are creating for themselves and try make the men who are blowing off steam shut up, are creating a situation where an eventual explosion is inevitable.

I am reluctant to mention the name, but I wonder how things might be different today if George Soldini had had a place like this to go and vent his frustrations and find that he was not alone among men in his experience. Instead of being told to shut up, and that the problem was all him, a bit of venting and some black humor might have let off just enough of the pressure that he could go back out and keep on keeping on.

Men used to have dozens of places they could go to get away from the tyranny of women – “working men’s clubs”, service clubs, private clubs, even sports venues. But, in the name of “busting up the old boys’ clubs” women have invaded every male space and used the power of government for force the men there to dance to the tune women want to hear.

The nausea-inducing hypocrisy of the white knights, chivalrists, manginas, and NAWALTers can be shown by comparison to this shredding of some of Liz Jone’s misandry spewing by Eman –
http://forahouseboy.blogspot.com/2009/10/living-proof-of-stripped-bare.html

What poor, sad creatures modern men are. What wimps. What wastes of space.

Aw, shut up and go fuck yourself you stupid bitch! You ought to be grateful that you are now inheriting the remains of the leftover society that your own brothers from past generations built.

So, it’s fine for a major publication to provide this disgusting old hag a platform from which to spew her bile and call men “wastes of space”, and nary a word gets said there calling her out on her hatred. But let a few guys get together in some little back corner of the web to blow off a little steam and talk about some very real frustrations they have with their lives, and you can bet your life that the chivalrist-and-PC brigade will be on them in a heartbeat like a bad rash trying to mind-game them into shutting up.

This is a very poor and dangerous strategy for women’s well being. The reason for that is not so much that it will breed more George Soldinis and Marc LePines, although I do believe that it will.

No, I think the real reason it is so bad for women to persist in the denial and silencing of men’s anger is what happens when it goes cold. There were a lot of men in that Montreal classroom who would not lift a finger to defend those young women. And, I suspect there are a lot of men sitting just a degree or two below that boiling point who, if they spoke to one of those men before they blew up, and got told that they were on their way to “give some bitches their come-uppance”, would have said “Oh, well have a nice day.”

I see more genuine “Miss-Odj-Oh-Knee” every day now than I saw in the entire first 25-30 years of my life. It simply is not possible for men to live under a constant bombardment of crap like Liz Jones spews on men, seeing a lot of women agree with her and almost no women vocally dissenting, and somehow magically metabolize this hostility into “love” for women.

Anyone, man or woman, who sincerely cares about women and their future, instead of seeking to silence men and do everything in their power to shut men up and make sure men’s concerns and point of view are NOT heard, would be looking at that red light, taking their foot off the misandry accelerator, and trying to do something about what is wrong before something else blows.

But, the strange paradox is that I can sit here, type out lengthy and calm explanations of the issues, and it is mostly a waste of time. If a man is angry enough to appear angry, what he says is dismissed because he is angry. If he is calm and rational about it, people don’t realize the anger under the calm and rational facade.

I’m not sure who said it, but I think the quote “If you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable” was on to something.
fedrz January 12, 2010 at 08:49

At least we are not invading the minds of our youth at the institutional level, and force feeding them filth like the following, and calling it “education.”

“For one of the implicit, if unadmitted, tenets of feminism has been a fundamental disprespect for men.” — Wendy Dennis

“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” — Andrea Dworkin

“My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.” — Marilyn French; The Women’s Room

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart, The Future – If There Is One – Is Female

“If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.” — Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001

“Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.” — Germaine Greer

“I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ‘hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with–husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers.” — Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love

“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” — Robin Morgan

…kill your fathers, not your mothers.” — Robin Morgan

Not only was this stuff not opposed by society, it was cheered! And not only was it cheered, it was, and is, taught in our educational institutions.

And not only that, many of the so called female “allies” of the MRM, are still trying to claim to be feminists, and defending the countless virtues of this ludicrous hate-movement. Equity Nazis, Equity White Supremacists and Equity Feminists… pfft to them all.

We’ve got a long way to go before “equality” has been achieved, eh?

And apparently, us knuckle-dragging thugs aren’t capable of emotional intelligence or empathy on nearly the same level as our “superior better 3/4’s,” so really, what else do they expect from us… we are, after all, only rapists – and that’s all we are.
Hestia January 12, 2010 at 08:51

@Zed-The reason for that is not so much that it will breed more George Soldinis and Marc LePines, although I do believe that it will.
I have no doubt this is what is going happening, but a huge portion of my fellow women seem to not give a darn about how men feel or the mental torture many men find themselves experiencing. The walls in my living room might care to listen to me more.

Anyone, man or woman, who sincerely cares about women and their future, instead of seeking to silence men and do everything in their power to shut men up and make sure men’s concerns and point of view are NOT heard, would be looking at that red light, taking their foot off the misandry accelerator, and trying to do something about what is wrong before something else blows.
This needs to be done for the same of both men and women of course. Sometimes when I read the writings on older men who tell all men to “go their own way” and find ways to enjoy life without women, I can’t help but wonder if they are out of touch with the situation numerous men my age are in. These are young men who have been stepped on and crushed EVERY DAY of their lives. They know nothing other than the tyranny of PC thoughts we’ve all been raised under, but are the losers of this indoctrination having heard nothing positives about themselves and nothing negative about females. They’ve been drugged up and cast away by an educations system that has offered them nothing. The majority of the “nice guys” have no loving contact with women and continue to be treated with contempt when they’ve done nothing wrong to deserve such treatment. And now they get to face a world of recession where many cannot find gainful employment. The “mancession” has not only made men lose jobs but has left quite a few young men never having had a real job and way to support himself. How do such men find hobbies or other ways to enrich their lives without women?! How do they find a meaningful existence in which they can “go their own way” in life? How do they not become angry not only with women, but with society as a whole, including older men and the guys who are getting all of the girls?

I can also tell you I know *many* young men who do not fall into this category who are still angry at older men for the mess they have handed our generation to clean up. Many believe the current wars we’re involved in are the failure of the Boomers and Gen X to take national security seriously, that the economic crisis is the result of foolish decadence practiced by these generations that will now be ours to handle. Many people my age, both men and women, know that we’ll likely be taxed to high heaven to fund all the socialist programs necessary to take care of an aging population. Whether these supposed cause and effects are true is a moot point in the minds of many young people as they are angry and already have their minds made up. Any respect for an elder’s wisdom is virtually gone and will probably decay further as more and more young people see their prospect at the American Dream fading and realize that the US is entering its winter.

People need to sit back, listen, and start to take the feelings of men seriously, including older men considering the position angry young men are in today. The future may not have only have George Sordinis but numerous young men completely disenfranchised who no longer give a care about anything as society doesn’t care about them.
Rebel January 12, 2010 at 09:14

Good points, Hestia.

Let us now draw a parallel with “terrorism”.
The Palestinian people have been treated in the same way men are being treated now. Although they tried to raise their voice about the cruel injustices they were put through, no one responded because the Palestinians were considered as the scum of the eath (same treatment men now get).
So, they started highjacking planes to indicate to the world that their suffering was intolerable.
It didn’t work, so it escalated up to 9-11.

Here is what I think now: Street gangs… Those are the very best people to be enrolled in the terrorist movement.

So, our future will be spent fighting terrorism from the outside AND terrorism from the inside. Now gues which one will be most dangerous? Think about it.
(Toynbee gives us a good insight into that)

Our society is fractured. The Marc Lepine of this world will multiply like flies and it will be the beginning of the end.

That is why I, an older man, advise young men to abandon women. When shit hits the fan (and I promise you it WILL), we don’t want to be in the way of bullets: remember Ecole Polytechnique: a forewarning of what is to inevitably come. No one lifted a finger, this had no precedent. If I was a woman, I would be scared. Really scared. Thanks God, I’m a man.

Every man I talk to is pissed off at women and that is very dangerous for women. Prepare to fend for your life.

Sorry if I sound pessimistic…
Hestia January 12, 2010 at 09:47

@Rebel- It is my understanding from my husband’s LEO friends that this future has already arrived, to a certain extent. Gang activity is on the rise in many areas where it didn’t use to exist and will likely continue to spread like wildfire.

The violence turning inward in the form of suicide is another concern the future might hold. I personally know three young men who have killed themselves in the last four years and a few more who have attempted suicide. One who succeeded has recently returned from combat, as had a few one of the men who attempted, so they are perhaps unfair examples to use even in an anecdotal example. The future may hold many more friends and family shaking their heads at such tragic news as a young man hanging himself for “no reason” if people don’t wake up and listen.

Nah, you don’t sound pessimistic, just realistic, depressing as that might be. Soon the entire United States will be like Detroit, which was the wretched reality I grew up in. Not an if, but a when.
Soap January 12, 2010 at 09:51

Hestia, I really admire you and your attitudes. If more women were like you….

But truthfully, I’m at the point that if I did meet a woman who seemed like you, I would assume she was aiming to entrap me in a soul-killing marriage.

I’m safer assuming all women I meet are my enemy,and that every move is a trap.
Rebel January 12, 2010 at 10:13

@Hestia
“Nah, you don’t sound pessimistic, just realistic, depressing as that might be. Soon the entire United States will be like Detroit, which was the wretched reality I grew up in. Not an if, but a when.”

Let me tell you something I haven’t said to a woman in many years: Hestia: you are a gentleman. Take that as a compliment.

I have visited the U.S. on many occasions and always wondered at the great country that it was. And the people were so very friendly.

What is happening to your country (and mine, just north of you) is a catastrophe. I find NO pleasure in seeing the destruction of what was once a beacon of light and hope.

The America of my youth is gone and I feel so very, very sorry about it.

Who will our youth turn to now?
Who will be the beacon of democracy?
Charles Martel January 12, 2010 at 10:17

@Rebel

Our society is fractured. The Marc Lepine of this world will multiply like flies and it will be the beginning of the end………..Every man I talk to is pissed off at women and that is very dangerous for women. Prepare to fend for your life.

One point I am undecided on is whether the rising power of women is a cause or an effect of the end of empire. My best guess is that feminism is an effect of a civilization in decline, due to material prosperity and declining morality, but that the decline is accelerated by the various female-instigated dysfunctions in public institutions.

We can confidently predict how Western feminism will end as there are many examples provides to us by earlier civilizations. Feminism will grow until central authority collapses, so that women are unable to walk the streets without being assaulted. Even then there will be no generalized pogrom against women as men will still protect their wives and daughters. But without the patronage of Big Husband Government, women will once again have to negotiate with individual men on an equal footing for their protection.

So…..how long will it take to reach this state? Ten years, fifty, a hundred? What do you think?
fedrz January 12, 2010 at 10:43

Charles Martel,

I think this could happen very fast – and in the very near future, especially if the power the US dollar takes a sharp decline.

Have a look at the Roaring Twenties compared to the Dirty Thirties. It didn’t take much time at all. During the Twenties, feminism was rampant, women were rebellious, sexuality was on the rise… yaddah yaddah… come the Thirties, and women themselves were driving other women out of the workplace, as they vehemently despised two income families, as a husband and wife both working when jobs were scarce meant that the working woman “stole” a job that another woman’s mule (er… husband) was denied, thereby also denying her and her family an income.

When all those HR & gov’t jobs dry up, and women are huddled together around a burning barrel beneath a bridge, I imagine that many women will gladly offer to roll up her sleeves and scrub the floors of any man resourceful enough to build a small log cabin and grow enough potatoes and vegetables to keep food on the table. Why, she might even be willing to offer a little bit of nookie without considering it rape as well!

I’d probably insist she learns to milk the cow and churn butter as well, and I’ll bet I’d have no shortage of takers.
Snark January 12, 2010 at 10:53

But fedrz, don’t you know that a woman can do anything a man can do?

They will be building their own log cabins and growing their own vegetables!

*laughs*
Firepower January 12, 2010 at 11:31

poor
is the man
reliant upon
his wife’s cookies
Rebel January 12, 2010 at 12:06

@Charles Martel,

(The man who defeated the Saracens, the defender of the nascent Western Civilization. How fitting.)

I share your ideas. But I have no idea of how long it will take to dismantle the spider web that has been drawn around us.

I still hope that somehow, something will happen to save us just before it’s too late.

You probably think along the same lines: hence your screen name.

I see a very positive side to feminism: it brings men closer together like never before. Something like a true brotherhood of men.

Maybe this is where our salvation lies.

Our world needs another Charles Martel.

ONE man is all it takes.
HR Lincoln January 12, 2010 at 12:25

Reb – “Who will be the beacon of democracy?”

Here’s the thing, reb – democracy is what has brought us feminism, American style.

A constitutional republic, with voting rights vested only in true stakeholders, (ie., male landowners) would never have degenerated as our has. Giving women voting rights has been suicidal for our culture; just listen to the way our politicians, of both parties, pander to the matriarchy.

At their core, women are security-seeking creatures, and will overwhelmingly sacrifice liberty in exchange for security. Worldwide, women tend to vote left.

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  1. anna Says:

    hm i would never reveal this in other forums but maybe this is the place. i am a female and i loathe and despise other females. i think they are stupid and nasty. they absolutely deserve to get knocked down for a change.

    yes guys can be dumb but the difference is that most guys know that they are dumb. girls are taught from kindergarten that they are better than men and super special and not a bad spot in them. we were taught that men are bad, and that women have to be better men then men are in order to be good womyn.

    feminists don’t care about women. because if you are a girly girl (like myself) then you are viewed as a sellout, as “not evolved”.

    so yes i absolutely hope men get mad, enraged, and take some of their own back.

    i find it attractive.

    if this were any public forum now is the time i would get eviscerated by other “womyn”.

  2. ymarsakar Says:

    Dessert Survivor said…

    A few years ago I gave the following writing assignment to college sophomores:
    “In recent years, many schools administrators and teachers have become very concerned that students have a positive self-image. If children have low self-esteem, they are less likely to study and more likely to drop into paths that are destructive, both for the individual and for those around him or her. As a result, teachers try to avoid negative re-enforcement (criticism and punishment) and to use only positive re-enforcement (praise and reward).

    In contrast, Socrates seems to have thought that it was his duty to tell people, including young people, that their positive self-images and high self-esteem were delusions and that they were not as smart or as good as they thought they were. As he says, “I question, examine and cross-examine him, and if I think he has no virtue, but only says he has, I reproach him….”

    If the self-esteem proponents are correct, Socrates may have been a corrupter of youth who deserved to be silenced. On the other hand, if Socrates was right, then many in today’s educational establishment have corrupted education.

    Take a position on Socrates and self-esteem and argue it ….”

    I expected most of them to defend Socrates and conclude that one could take self-esteem too far. I was wrong. Almost all of them decided that Socrates was guilty and deserved to die for his offenses against self-esteem.


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