US leaves Vietnam. This is the state of the region right now, for Thailand at least.
Given the media’s focus on the 25 something million in Iraq, don’t you have to wonder what else is going on concerning the other 5+ billion folks on this planet?
It might even be said of the media that they were parochial folks that have too much tunnel vision, unable to see anything except their small village like conceptions of the world. The world is their village, their village is their world, that is parochialism all right. But naw, it can’t be, the media travels all over the place, right? Except of course, cosmopolitanism and parochialism is in the mind, not in the body. The body may travel a thousand miles, but the mind may still be in the same place it was at the beginning of the journey. And the same may be said for the progress of the mind in a body that has never moved from that single spot.
THAILAND: Executive decree will not solve conflict in Thailand’s south
I write to voice my deep concern about your decision to issue the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situation, B.E. 2548 in three provinces in the south of Thailand. This decree goes beyond the powers of the Prime Minister. Discussion and cross-checks by a government’s cabinet help ensure democratic process are met in a democracy. Your decision to bypass your cabinet and take full control of the rising conflict in the south is a direct violation of these processes.
Particular elements of the decree also raise many concerns. Specifically, Section 17, which guarantees complete impunity to all state officials, is a dangerous measure and one that may see many state officials exploit their power and control. Section 12, which allows for increased powers to security forces, such as the ability to detain persons without arrest for prolonged periods, also leaves room for abuse.
I am aware that the UN Human Rights Committee has also expressed their concern regarding this decree, particularly in regards to article 4 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. Article 4 stipulates that “in time of public emergency which threatens the life of the nation and the existence of which is officially proclaimed, the States Parties to the present Covenant may take measures derogating from their obligations under the present Covenant to the extent strictly required by the exigencies of the situation, provided that such measures are not inconsistent with their other obligations under international law and do not involve discrimination solely on the ground of race, colour, sex, language, religion or social origin? In its recent concluding observations on Thailand at its eighty-fourth session, the Committee wrote that the decree “does not explicitly specify, or place sufficient limits, on the derogations from the rights protected by the Covenant that may be made in emergencies and does not guarantee full implementation of article 4 of the Covenant. [The Committee] is especially concerned that the Decree provides for officials enforcing the state of emergency to be relieved of legal and disciplinary actions, thus exacerbating the problem of impunity. Any detention without external safeguards beyond 48 hours should be prohibited.?[CCPR/CO/84/THA] The Committee has recommended that the “State party should ensure that all the requirements of article 4 of the Covenant are complied with in its law and practice, including the prohibition of derogation from the rights listed in its paragraph 2.?The report also stated that State party should provide information, within one year, on its response to the Committee’s recommendations regarding this.
It is sad that people are still quoting the UN as if it matters to them. Because it seemingly does matter to them, the UN after all does have international sanction given the membership of powerful nations such as Israel, the US, Australia, Britain, and Japan. China as well. I mean, just think about what the above passage might mean. If the author is correct, meaning if his side truly does know what is the best course for Thailand, then they are quoting the UN and acceding to UN authority… which is a bad thing, you know. Which will lead them to anti-Americanism just because of the make up of the Un and all the anti-American programs andi nfluences in the UN. America has nobody but itself to blame for that one. You feed a poisonous coral snake in your house and let it go free, don’t be surprised that you end up with dead animals, pets, and children around, people.
The other scenario for the author of this post is that the leader of Thailand is doing what is necessary and this is just another apparatchik of the UN. Which means… the UN spreads its corruption farther now a days than just New York and Iraq.
Oh, as another look at other places, here’s the Pheonix Program on Vietnam. Very effective and ruthless. It completely destroyed and annihilated, forget decimated, the VietCong in the South. They had no cadres at the end of the decade there.
Here’s two entries. CIA factbook entry on Vietnam, Japan, Korea, and Thailand.
Okay, time for some number crunching. You know, objective standards. So let’s see what Vietnam and Thailand won over say Japan and Korea after being occupied by the US. (Still being occupied)
Vietnam
GDP (purchasing power parity):
$258.6 billion (2006 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$48.26 billion (2006 est.)
Labor force:
44.58 million (2006 est.)
Thailand
GDP (purchasing power parity):
$585.9 billion (2006 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$196.6 billion (2006 est.)
GDP – real growth rate:
4.8% (2006 est.)
GDP – per capita (PPP):
$9,100 (2006 est.)
GDP – composition by sector:
agriculture: 10%
industry: 44.9%
services: 45.2% (2006 est.)
Labor force:
36.41 million (2006 est.)
South Korea
GDP (purchasing power parity):
$1.18 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$897.4 billion (2006 est.)
GDP – real growth rate:
4.8% (2006 est.)
GDP – per capita (PPP):
$24,200 (2006 est.)
GDP – composition by sector:
agriculture: 3%
industry: 45%
services: 52% (2006 est.)
Labor force:
23.77 million (31 December 2006 est.)
Labor force – by occupation:
agriculture: 6.4%
industry: 26.4%
services: 67.2% (2006 est.)
585 plus 258 I do not know what it equals to but I do know it is not equal to 1.18 trillion.
Notice the Labor Force values. Even more accurate for models than total population. Because as you know, Korea and Japan with high GDP tend to have more older folks. That are not contributing to the work force as much, so you want the labor force values directly.
This is Japan’s file.
GDP (purchasing power parity):
$4.22 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$4.911 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP – real growth rate:
2.8% (2006 est.)
GDP – per capita (PPP):
$33,100 (2006 est.)
GDP – composition by sector:
agriculture: 1.6%
industry: 25.3%
services: 73.1% (2006 est.)
Labor force:
66.44 million (2006 est.)
So. How much did Vietnam win when they were the proxies of the Soviet Union? As compared to US proxies, Japan and South Korea? How much?
These are not feelings or thoughts, these are hard numbers. Currency. Money. Power.
Here is China’s sheet.
GDP (purchasing power parity):
$10 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$2.512 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP – real growth rate:
10.5% (official data) (2006 est.)
GDP – per capita (PPP):
$7,600 (2006 est.)
GDP – composition by sector:
agriculture: 11.9%
industry: 48.1%
services: 40%
Labor force:
798 million (2006 est.)
Labor force – by occupation:
agriculture: 45%
industry: 24%
services: 31% (2005 est.)
Yes they are cheating. You know there is some jiggering of the books when you produce 2 trillion, but you are able to purchase 10 trillion.
GDP (purchasing power parity):
$12.98 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$13.22 trillion (2006 est.)
GDP – real growth rate:
3.4% (2006 est.)
GDP – per capita (PPP):
$43,500 (2006 est.)
GDP – composition by sector:
agriculture: 0.9%
industry: 20.4%
services: 78.6% (2006 est.)
Labor force:
151.4 million (includes unemployed) (2006 est.)
Labor force – by occupation:
farming, forestry, and fishing 0.7%, manufacturing, extraction, transportation, and crafts 22.9%, managerial, professional, and technical 34.9%, sales and office 25%, other services 16.5%
note: figures exclude the unemployed (2006)
So if China has about the same PPP as we do here in the US, how come they can’t get the high tech stuff if they have the money to purchase it? Cause they don’t make it. You see… They make other things, which is why they have 2 trillion GDP and the US has 13 trillion.
The question of “which country would you want to live in” almost directly translates as “which country has been occupied by the United States and is still being occupied by the United States”.
What does this have to do with Thailand? Oh just that instability isn’t caused by the US. It is caused by those reacting to the rule of law and order.
August 25th, 2007 at 11:54 am How to do links:
the silly name you give your link
Note the quotation marks and the . Don’t leave anything out. Html is unforgiving.
Very good post, but you left out “political correctness” and “liberal white guilt” in the list of diseases that need to be mitigated.
August 25th, 2007 at 11:59 am Rebecca darling, don’t get me started on the PC mob
August 25th, 2007 at 11:59 am Oops. The stupid thing thought it was a real link. See what I mean about html? I’ll try putting in question marks to fool it, and hope that works.
the silly name you give your link
Remove the question marks, but nothing else, and you have your link.
August 25th, 2007 at 12:02 pm Nope, sorry. I give up. Evidently Jules’ site can’t reproduce the symbols.