This is an interesting example of how Hollywood was for the war in WWII, due to the fact that there was no reason to be against Hitler, given Hitler’s betrayal and attack on Soviet Stalin.
It is an entirely different ball game now a days.
This is an interesting example of how Hollywood was for the war in WWII, due to the fact that there was no reason to be against Hitler, given Hitler’s betrayal and attack on Soviet Stalin.
It is an entirely different ball game now a days.
There was an interesting forum thread I came across, concerning Target Focus Training and Aikido. Check it out, since it’s an interesting comparison between those that have attended TFT seminar live training and those that haven’t, but are practicing martial arts.
If you know me, then you will know that I just had to write a response. Even though the thread was written a full year ago.
One’s techniques MIGHT not work. If you are not used to that and do not practice this way… then well… your training situation is too different from what might actually happen.
TFT is able to train people in a short time because they don’t use your limitations. They handle the fact that your techniques might not work by… not focusing on techniques. What might happen is as numerous as the stars in the sky. What will happen when you are attacking and injuring an enemy is much more limited.
Techniques are learned through practice, and competition sport techniques are learned through practicing competition style tournaments and fights. Since TFT is only designed to injure and kill criminals, there is no way to “practice” unless it is cooperative practice. And since they are not teaching techniques, they do not need sparring as much as competitive sports do.
Different priorities results in different products.
TFT is designed for students and clients with zero experience in violence and martial arts. Thus, it has to be more than just something for people with belts in martial arts. Because their system is the way it is, the way they treat successive strikes is also very different from what competitive sports produce.
The theory of chain comboing attacks remains a theory until it is applied. It is just that the applications differ depending upon who you are asking. A lot of things may be obvious to people in the abstract, but it is the application and the details that separates the crowd out.
If a person with zero training sees this TFT website, takes some seminars/videos/trains for couple of months and this builds up confidence. That confidence could vey well get HIM killed.
It could, which might be why the US Special Forces and SEALs used the exact same training principles, and even instructor, as TFT uses. They needed to be sure that, confident or not, in armor or not, tired or not, with ammo or not, that the first time they use it is the first time that it works.
That’s a crime. And that’s lying to people.-J
Of what use are hypotheticals and wild guesses to the subject of life and death? It’s a crime just because you visualized a mental scenario and assume that it is what is going on? Is such a thing the key to victory, do you think?
I mean to me that’s yucky and I wouldn’t want to bite anyone in the world of today nor I would not want to practice it but they have their thing down!-J
Unless you can bite through a person’s carotid and jugular, what is the point? It’s much easier to just claw out the eyes. Then you’re certain you’ve injured the enemy, whereas with a bite, you might have to rely on taste and other subjective senses to determine what you got.
I would love to spar your wife and her friends (LOL) with let’s say… groin protection and goggles and boxing gloves.
Do you really believe you can “train” for a life and death situation by fighting a guy with groin protectors, goggles, and boxing gloves?
Anyway I can not see why not implement resistance training.-J
Because that kind of training is “play”. It might give someone confidence that they can hit and perhaps push back an assailant, but in reality, when they don’t get the reaction that they saw in practice for real life, they will hesitate and die.
soft spots and yes that might shy away an unconfident rapist but that’s not the point is it?-J
Indeed, since the point is getting an injury, not playing around with people armored up.
As I’ve learned from a reliable source: Superior speed, will power and technical knowledge is all taken away by a thumb driven through the eyeball, and I mean right through to the back of the eye socket. YUK!-Original Post Author
Even an Abrams tank can get taken down if you shoot at its weakest point. If simple small arms fire can’t get through, then it is time to put out the heavy firepower. The nuclear package even.
How do YOU know? How do YOU know it works for YOU?-j
Because as someone with high endorphine and adrenaline aids for pain and injury, I still need time to “psyche up” and I don’t have that time if someone puts his elbow and 150 pounds of force into my throat. What applies to me also applies to any other human being. Being dead is the only objective criteria in determining who has won, in war or in duels or in free for alls. If you are dead, you are definitely the loser. And it doesn’t really matter who disputes that.
Can you still fight with a crushed throat? Maybe. Can you still fight with a ruptured testicle? Perhaps for some. Can you still fight with a broken neck? Some guy with a gun in hand can still fire it even with a broken neck, I can certainly admit that.
None of that matters. If you still have the capacity to launch attacks and injure the other guy, go and do it. And just the same, I will damage my enemy to the point where I Am Confident that he won’t be getting up, no matter how fanatical or pumped up with endorphines/drugs he is. Confidence? I am confident that so long as I am alive and conscious, I can kill and destroy my enemies. Victory is never guaranteed, that is why we still have wars.
Of course people have also taken accidental shots to the groin and were unable to continue the fight BUT people have also been able to continue right away (the referee was at the blind angle) recover and reverse the fight.-J
Are you under the delusion that TFT says “hit these 5 critical targets, and you win”?
In that situation, in my opinion, no one is going to land EVERY strike exactly where they want it. If you are well trained in TFT then yes, you have a good chance of landing a shot to a critical zone and ending the conflict. But like everything else, don’t preach that when I’m attacked it’s going to be this “1 strike bad guy fall down hype” either.-Michael O’Brien
Tim Larkin specifically has already said that they teach you to select targets and then go to the next ones, because targeting is not 100% absolute guaranteed.
Violence doesn’t use strength or speed as a means of domination? I would venture to say that a violent act is MUCH MORE easily thwarted if it wasn’t fueled by strength, speed, aggressiveness, and killer instinct.
Guy who planted the IED that killed Majors in the US Army just did it cause he needed to feed his family. Strength? IED Guy is malnutrioned. Speed? Can’t be too fast planting explosives or too slow. Aggressiveness? Sneak attacks are sneak attacks because someone learned that violence didn’t need “aggressiveness”. Killer instinct? IED guy doesn’t have a specific American he wants to see dead.
So which person does the United States have more trouble killing, the guy with “killer instinct” meaning Al Qaeda, or the average Iraqi that just wants a living wage?
1. How do you train shoving a finger up to 2nd knuckle in someones eyesocket?
They use a trick off of the OODA cycle used for military live fire training.
1. Look at the target. Touch the target. Transfer load (Your body weight will be sufficient).-OP author
Observe, orientate, decide, and act. Find the eye socket, orientate to your hands or other weapon attachments, decide which finger to use, and then use that finger to scoop the eye out.
This is replicated in a non-damaging practice through having the Finger, whichever that might be, touching and then applying force to an opponent’s eyebrows or cheek or other spot near the eyes. The cooperative partner then moves his head, as you slowly apply force. Or he moves his head without any pressure on your part. Regardless of the details, you get the benefit of seeing the reaction you would get in real life, getting the feeling in your fingers that you would get in real situations, approximately, and doing exactly the same thing you would do if you wanted to scoop out the other guy’s eyes. Except in practice, you don’t injure the other guy. In real life, you just position your finger over his eye, push it in, and when your finger is all in the way in, the force of your blow causes his head to turn away.
By training your body to respond correctly to the correct stimuli, you bypass the OODA problems that would crop up in “tap out situations”. Situations where you do something different than what you practiced for, and suddenly your brain initiates an OODA loop. Like this. Observe that something wrong has occured, orientate to what is going on, decide on how to correct it, and then act. Just before “Act”, you have lost the initiative and are now being the one injured, like the martial artist that accepted a tap out, due to his OODA loop initiating without his knowledge, and got stabbed.
What this does is that even if your attempt to attack is foiled, due to whatever, your OODA loop is still shorter than the other guy’s. Thus this acts as a force multiplier in violent situations, giving you an edge. Why is your OODA loops shorter and fewer than the other guy’s? Because the other guy has at least two OODA loops after your failed attack on his eyes. He has observed that your attack failed, he has orientated to the situation that he still has both his eyes, he has decided that he no longer needs to continue defending his eyes, and then he decides to look at you and decide on how to attack. Then another loop starts, which is he observes you, orientates to your body, decides to attack you with fists, then acts.
But, remember that while he has to worry about adequately defending himself and also worry about attacking you somewhere, the only thing you are thinking of is finding a new target. This is why attackers have the initiative, until their fuel runs out of their tanks that is. By the time you get tired or your fuel runs out, the fight should be over.
Jorgen Matsi is of course, J. Much of what he says is reflected in TFT, but because Jorgen has a different set of philosophical beliefs, contrary to TFT *like cooperative practice being null in MA meaning that it is null and void in TFT too*, thus making him opposed to TFT. If only because of ignorance. Seeing is believing, so if you wish, you can watch this free fight video clip TFT put up.
On another note, Grim Beorn has two killer articles about human nature here. Go read, now.
Grim is great with titles. Remember one of his pieces at Blackfive “On the Virtues of Killing Children”? Won’t find that title duplicated on Google by another author!
People have been talking about the Vietnamese war since decades ago. About how it was the US supporting a corrupt South Vietnam against a National Vietnamese movement and all that jazz. The thing is, everything that people accuse S Vietnam of, is also true for S Korea. But why don’t people say the same things about South Korea that they do about South Vietnam?
Because South Vietnam lost the war. The night map of Korea is not just a testament to what happens when folks are on the wrong side of a war, but what happens when the war never ended and you are still on the wrong side of the war. Vietnam is a great example of what happens when you are on the winning side as well as the losing side. The losing side gets to talk about South Vietnamese corruption and “mistakes made”, assuming anybody on the losing side is still alive. The winning side gets bragging rights at Hanoi.
People talk about South Vietnam’s problems because it is pointless to talk about South Korea’s problems given how successful it is. Success in war matters more than any propaganda formed from words. Victory shuts people up more effectively than any angry yelling or protesting.
Courtesy of A Second Hand Conjecture
There was much talk about the blood debt of the media in relation to America’s loss in Vietnam and what the media is doing to America right now, over at Neo-Neocon’s blog. In order to paint a broader and more consistent picture, that ties things together, I am going to compose together a couple of blog posts I recently read.
I said in a comment at Neo’s blog that there is such a thing as a pyramid of useful idiotry. Where you had the Soviets at the top, making use of the Leftists, and the Leftists making use of the fake liberals of the Democrat party. When the Soviets left a vacancy, Arab and Persian children killers took it up.
Some people are under the impression that liberals, as of today, believe in human rights, American national security, and thus the equivalent things that the conservatives believe in. This fullfills the need to sit on the fence and excuse the media’s crimes against humanity by saying the media does it for “both sides” and that both sides are just as good or bad or anything else a person may think up to say. It also whitewashes Leftist activism and sabotage of America’s national security, by bringing up the claim that Leftists are extremists and don’t outnumber the so called “liberals” of the Democrat party.
To all of the excuses made for the media, the Left, the Democrats, and their other allies, this is my response.
By 1973, Arafat was a Soviet puppet (and would remain such until the fall of the USSR). His adjutants, including Mahmoud Abbas, were being trained by the KGB in guerrilla warfare, espionage, and demolition; and his ideologues had gone to North Vietnam to learn the propaganda Tao of Ho Chi Minh.
Arafat was particularly struck by Ho’s success in mobilizing left-wing sympathizers in Europe and the United States, where activists on American campuses, enthusiastically following the line of North Vietnamese operatives, had succeeded in reframing the Vietnam War from a Communist assault on the south to a struggle for national liberation. Ho’s chief strategist, General Giap, made it clear to Arafat and his lieutenants that in order to succeed, they too needed to redefine the terms of theirstruggle.
Giap’s counsel was simple but profound: the PLO needed to work in a way that concealed its real goals, permitted strategic deception, and gave the appearance of moderation: “Stop talking about annihilating Israel and instead turn your terror war into a struggle for human rights. Then you will have the American people eating out of your hand.”
Mitsu, a commenter at Neo-Neocon, notably made the claim that just because Democrats disagree about US national security, does not mean that the Democrats or “liberals” are helping our enemies. Since Leftists and their fake liberal allies are helping our enemies, it really doesn’t matter what fake liberals actually intended, now does it. Tools do not exist because they have an intent to do something either way.
Then we have this incident with the Left.
THE COURT: All right. Mr. Kelly, what have
7 you — Mr. Grodner, I understand that you’re
8 entering a plea of guilty — Let me see the
9 file — to the charge of criminal damage to
11 That you knowingly damaged the property
12 of Michael McNulty; such property being a 2002
13 black BMW, located at 7631 North Eastlake Terrace,
14 without consent in that you rubbed along the
15 passenger side of the vehicle causing scratches.
16 Is that what you did?
17 THE DEFENDANT: (No response.)
18 THE COURT: Mr. Grodner, I’m talking to you.
19 Is that what you did?
20 THE DEFENDANT: Yes. Yes, we have a
21 stipulation to the facts, –
22 THE COURT: Is that what you did; yes or no?
23 THE DEFENDANT: Without the “knowingly”, yes.
24 THE COURT: Sir, I’m asking you did you
1 knowingly cause damage to this car?
2 If you say “no”, then we’ll set it down
3 for a trial date.
4 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
5 THE COURT: You did. Thank you.
6 You realize that I could sentence you to
7 jail for up to one year. Fine you $2500. That by
8 pleading guilty, you’re waiving your right to a
9 jury trial. You’re not going to have a trial at
11 Do you understand that?
12 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do.
13 THE COURT: You’re waiving your right to hold
14 the State to the burden of proving you guilty
15 beyond a reasonable doubt. You’re not going to be
16 able to cross-examine witnesses and to present
17 witnesses on your own behalf.
18 Do you understand that?
19 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I do.
20 THE COURT: Now, is there a stipulation to
21 those facts contained in the complaint?
22 THE DEFENDANT: Yes.
23 THE COURT: Is that correct?
24 THE DEFENDANT: That’s correct.
1 THE COURT: And, you have chosen to represent
2 yourself; even though, I continued this case once
3 for you to obtain an attorney. Is that right?
4 THE DEFENDANT: That’s right.
5 THE COURT: All right. And, –
6 THE DEFENDANT: My attorney –
7 THE COURT: — you are a licensed attorney
8 in –
9 THE DEFENDANT: I am, Your Honor.
10 THE COURT: — the State of Illinois; is that
12 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I am.
13 THE COURT: All right.
14 MR. KELLY: Your Honor, the State would
15 stipulate to the facts, also.
16 THE COURT: There’s a factual basis for the
17 plea. There’s a finding of guilty –
18 MR. KELLY: May we read that into the record?
19 THE COURT: What?
20 MR. KELLY: May we read that into the record?
21 THE COURT: Read what?
22 MR. KELLY: The alleged facts in this case.
23 THE COURT: Yeah. I did already, Pat; but,
24 I’ll read them again. I’m more than happy to.
1 MR. KELLY: Thank you.
2 THE COURT: “That on December 1, at 7631
3 North Eastlake Terrace, the Defendant, Mr. Grodner,
4 knowingly damaged the property of Michael McNulty;
5 such property being a 2002 black BMW, located at
6 7631 North Eastlake Terrace, without consent
7 rubbed along the passenger side of the vehicle
8 causing scratches in violation of 720 5/21-1(a) of
9 the Illinois Compiled Statutes, in the City of
10 Chicago, County of Cook.”
11 MR. KELLY: So stipulated, Your Honor.
12 THE DEFENDANT: So stipulated, Your Honor.
13 THE COURT: All right. Finding of guilty.
14 State, what was the agreement that you
15 worked out with Mr. Grodner?
16 MR. KELLY: Subject to the Court’s approval,
17 we would recommend one year of Court supervision.
18 THE COURT: Social Services –
19 MR. KELLY: Social Services. Reporting for
20 the payment of restitution only. The restitution
21 would be in the amount of $600, Your Honor. That’s
22 to be paid on or before January 19, 2008.
23 Those monies will be donated by Social
24 Services to the Injured Marine Semper Fi Fund.
1 THE COURT: January 19th only gives him until
2 tomorrow. Is he able to pay it today?
3 MR. KELLY: That’s my error, Judge. I’m
4 sorry. The 25th.
5 THE DEFENDANT: 2009?
6 THE COURT: January 25th?
7 MR. KELLY: That’s the probation. I looked at
8 the wrong one. It was January 25th of 2008.
9 Will you be able to pay it by then?
10 THE DEFENDANT: Suppose to be six months.
11 THE SHERIFF: Put your hands behind your
13 THE DEFENDANT: Jesus Christ.
14 THE COURT: You’re the Defendant, sir. You’re
15 in custody. You have to behave as such.
17 THE DEFENDANT: I’m trying to negotiate with
18 Counsel, Your Honor.
19 THE COURT: I know. Talk to him.
20 MR. KELLY: I’m sorry. That’s what I was
21 told. For the year.
22 THE COURT: Talk to him.
23 (WHEREUPON THE
24 ASSISTANT STATE’S
1 ATTORNEY AND THE
2 DEFENDANT HAD A
3 DISCUSSION OFF THE
5 THE COURT: Hey, if there is no agreement,
6 we’ll set it down for trial. I don’t have any
7 problem with that.
8 MR. KELLY: If we could just have one minute,
9 Your Honor?
10 THE COURT: Sure.
11 MR. KELLY: I believe we have — still have
12 an agreement, Your Honor.
13 THE COURT: All right. When is he going to
14 pay this money and what fund is it going to be
15 directed to?
16 MR. KELLY: It would be directed to the
17 Injured Marine Semper Fi Fund, on College
18 Boulevard, in Oceanside, California.
19 It’s a fund that’s used to treat and
20 rehabilitate Marines and other Service Members who
21 were injured, either physically or psychologically,
22 in the conflict between the United States and Iraq.
23 THE COURT: When is that going to be paid by?
24 MR. KELLY: January 25, 2008.
1 Is that doable for you?
2 THE DEFENDANT: I don’t know. I wasn’t put
3 in the — It wasn’t put –
4 THE COURT: It has to be paid January 25,
6 What was the other part of the agreement?
7 Anything else?
8 MR. KELLY: No, sir.
9 THE COURT: All right.
10 MR. KELLY: Am I missing anything?
11 THE COURT: One year — Any community
12 service? Any fees or fines?
13 MR. BUNTINAS: Judge, we’re not asking that
14 the Court waive the $50 per month probation fee –
15 or, Social Services fee.
16 THE COURT: You are or you are not?
17 MR. BUNTINAS: We are not.
18 THE COURT: No. The fees won’t be waived.
19 MR. BUNTINAS: Right.
20 THE COURT: Are there any additional court
21 fees and costs –
22 MR. BUNTINAS: None, Judge.
23 THE COURT: — that the State wants to asses?
24 MR. BUNTINAS: None, Judge.
1 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Grodner, because
2 the State has agreed to this, this is what I will
3 sentence you to. One-year Social Service
4 supervision and that would terminate 1-16-2009;
5 and, $600 restitution to be paid –
6 MR. KELLY: May I interrupt the Court, Judge?
7 THE COURT: What?
8 MR. KELLY: The Defendant has indicated that
9 he’s going to need a month. So, we’re changing the
10 agreement, if the Court will so allow, to February
11 25th of ’08. One month.
12 THE COURT: Restitution to be paid 2-25-08.
13 Mr. Grodner, you have 30 days to withdraw
14 your plea. That motion must be in writing. It
15 must allege any error you deem to have occurred
16 during the course of these proceedings. Otherwise,
17 they’ll be waived on appeal.
18 Beyond that, you have 30 days to appeal
19 that. If you couldn’t afford to hire a lawyer, pay
20 for transcripts, we would provide them for you.
21 I need a signed Jury Waiver.
22 (WHEREUPON A JURY
23 WAIVER WAS SIGNED BY
24 THE DEFENDANT AND
1 TENDERED TO THE
3 You’re fortunate, Mr. Grodner, that you
4 made that agreement with the State. My
5 understanding is that you caused damage to this
6 young Marine sergeant’s car because you were
7 offended by his Marine Corps license plates.
8 I’m going to tell you something, Mr.
9 Grodner. The Marine Corps license plates do not
10 involve anything dealing with an ego. The proceeds
11 go to the Marine Corps Scholarship Fund, which
12 provides scholarships for all children of all
13 Marines and Navy Corpsmen that fight and aide the
14 Marine Corps; and, a larger amount of money goes to
15 scholarships for those who have lost their lives.
16 You probably also wondered why there was
17 a whole crowd of people here today, Mr. Grodner.
The damage to the car was assessed to be around 2k. The family waived prosecuting for felony charges and wanted the case to go away as fast as can be. They didn’t want a trial and neither did Grodner. Grodner, as a lawyer, knew what could happen to him in a trial. Which is why he said he “knowingly damaged” the car, even though he was arguing first that he didn’t “knowingly” damage the car. When the judge said that if you say no, then it is going to trial, the lawyer acted like the man he was. Which was not a man at all and submitted.
Some people will try to downplay this as being just one incident where Matt of Blackfive couldn’t get the media to report on an injustice against a Marine for being a Marine. That the media does this against the Left too. Such excuses are just attempts to sit on the fence, hoping problems will go away. It doesn’t cover up the fact that the New York Times and other media propaganda apparatuses goes out of their way to attack the US military as being victims and dupes and homeless blokes. It is only when an actual case of injustice crops up, that the media suddenly must be forced and motivated to cover.
The biggest stunner is probably this youtube video. We’ve read about individual Leftists and foreigners conducting propaganda operations designed to target American citizens. Now we will see a government affiliated bureaucracy and “commission” put the boot heel on Canadian free speech. It puts paid to the fantasy that Leftists are not important because they are a minority. In fact, them being a minority allows them an easier way to control the majority of a nation’s populace. If they were a majority, they wouldn’t be nearly as unethical and anti-liberal, since majorities are hard to shift to extremism all at once.
Leftists have great power because they are small. To some people, with Leftist beliefs, this means that the Left are victims and should be helped along in life. I don’t think so. Nor are Leftists just like isolationists on the right.
You can’t upgrade to 64 bit Vista from a 32 bit operating system. That kind of defeats the purpose of “Windows Anytime Upgrades” now doesn’t it.
I think this common among Ns, because I too have seen them suddenly boost the intimidation and violence when the old, less forcing tactics no longer work. To incredible levels! In fact, I couldn’t believe my eyes and ears. I’d have never thought this person capable of such wild behavior.
So, thanks for the example. I don’t know this for sure, but I too feel that an N will go just as far as they think they need to (and can get away with) to get the job done.
If subtle mind-control tactics work, why risk landing in jail for physical violence? My guess is that this is the only consideration that normally holds them back from illegal acts and physical violence.
But that isn’t morality. The absence of physical violence does NOT mean that an N is incapable of it. It doesn’t mean the won’t someday (just like a three-year-old) instantly resort to it when frustrated.
I think that is one of the gravest dangers, because people get the idea that since their N doesn’t hit or do something as outrageous as guit his job or hit anyone, he or she isn’t as bad. Isn’t likely to ever do anything like that.
Then you are stunned when the day comes that the N needs to up the ante and he murders someone or does something else you’d never have dreamed him capable of. And he does it just as off-handly as he used to merely insult them before.
Because his pea shooter doesn’t work anymore, so he took out his canon. Ns are mental children, so they think like that.
That’s just my opinion, from my own shocked observations and from accounts of others. Which is why I always say that I think the only limit on what a N will do is what he thinks he can get away with.
In other words, I suspect that malignant narcissists are capable of anything. I know many people can’t buy that and even some authorities disagree. And I don’t blame them. I myself wouldn’t have believed it till I saw it. I was always thinking, “Oh he’d never do this” or “She’d never do that.” And I was dead wrong in every case. It was only a matter of time till something happened to trip their trigger and shock you with what they IMPULSIVELY just did without the slightest compunction.
But should it be a surpise when we know they care only about one thing – getting what they want?
Nothing else is even a consideration to them. So why should doing a big evil be any harder for them than doing a little evil is?
I think it’s a mistake to keep assuming they think like normal people do. They don’t. They think like a spoiled three-year-old thinks. And you know what’s going to happen if you let a spoiled three-year-old carry a gun. The moment stomping her foot and screaming at her playmates doesn’t work, she will thoughtlessly whip it out.
Who thinks g over at Bookworm Room is a malignant narcissist? (raise hand) Enjoy the rest.